Moderator: Jiten Madia, Founder, flowres.io
Experts:
Yogesh Chavda, Founder, Y2S Consulting |
Lauren McCluskey, Principal, Responsive Research |
Introductions
Jiten: Hi everyone, I have Lauren and
Yogesh with me. Yogesh is founder of Y2S Consulting and he talked about some
really cool custom GPT tools he built at Y2S. Lauren has been an avid AI tool
user in her past jobs and she's great at converting feedback into actionable
results. As for myself – I’m a qualitative researcher turned entrepreneur; focused
on service and product domains of qualitative research. We’ve now built a tool
flowres and we have been in the transcription service space as well, through myTranscriptionPlace.
AI
tools – Current usage
Jiten: Can we start off with a quick poll… apart
from ChatGPT, how many tools have you used and for what? So, Yogesh Lauren,
what do you think of the results?
Yogesh: I'm not surprised with the results,
to be honest with you. Lauren, what do you think?
Lauren: No, it's just makes sense.
Jiten: Yeah, everyone is in an exploring
phase, right? Let's dive in. So let's start with you, Yogesh and Lauren. What
AI tools that you have tried so far and what's your overall experience with AI?
Lauren: I think you're really getting two
very different angles with Yogesh and myself. I'd probably say you're getting
my perspective as more of a lay researcher using AI as opposed to a real expert
who is not just using, but also creating. I consider myself at this point a
little more than a dabbler, having used a range of AI tools, both pure LLMs,
I'll say just, from GPT of course; to Claude, which I think is my personal
favorite. I even have a name for Claude. I call Claude, Claudeette…. who I
really view as sort of my ‘thought-partner’. I also am a big fan of Perplexity.
Native research platforms that I use, range from, let's say, discuss.io's
Native AI, or Recollective or any of those embedded in some of the research
tools that I'm using to conduct either synchronous or asynchronous work, as
well as tools like flowres, CoLoop, Yabble, easythemes. There really is quite a
range of difference in terms of both functionality and accuracy and just
enjoyment frankly in using them and the results that they yield. I'll stop
there. Yogesh, over to you.
Yogesh: Thanks, Lauren. If I was to add a
couple more names, I’ve been playing with text-to-video tools, which is a big
enabler for market researchers trying to communicate complex information that
you can't necessarily do through text or just images by themselves. The last
one I'll mention is Meta’s Lama 3.2… pretty sophisticated in terms of its
capabilities. Even if you put in simple prompts that relate to market research,
it gives you back some fairly sophisticated answers.
AI
tools – Possible use-cases in Market Research
Lauren: I probably should have led with this…
as a researcher, the way I'm viewing AI and its role in the work I do is quite
simply – How can it be applied in the pre, during, and post data-collection phases.
And from our poll, it was clear that the majority of people here use AI for back-end
analysis. But there's tremendous value in using it in that pre and during phases
as well.
AI
tools – Addressing data-privacy concerns
Jiten: So what advice do we give to people
who want to use AI tools and seek client permission to do so?
Yogesh: Yeah, so this is a pretty new
terrain for everybody, right? There are companies that are very much into, you
know, wanting vendors to use AI tools. There are others who are uncertain about
many things. And then there are a few who will just outright reject it. So it’s
a diverse spectrum out there. For companies that are into it and wanting you to
use it; as a vendor, you want to make sure that you are doing a couple of
things that protect yourself and your client.
Lauren: I think you have a better chance of
getting client compliance and buy-in with those tools. Because I feel like
maybe those walled gardens are just a little safer.
Yogesh: Yeah. So, when you're dealing with
the user information, whether it's a quantitative survey or qualitative… you
can actually do something prior to inputting anything into any AI tool. The
first thing you can do is you can anonymize the names.
Jiten: As a tool provider, I can tell you
that most tool providers are GDPR-compliant and check all the standards.
Because even for our own certification, we have to go and check various things.
So I think data security is generally not a problem, if you are using a paid
version.
ChatGPT
vs specialized AI tools
Jiten: Let’s move gears a little bit… there
are so many tools and then there is ChatGPT. I think everyone starts their
journey at ChatGPT. So, what's your experience on using specialized tools versus
ChatGPT? And if there are times when you prefer ChatGPT or vice versa?
Lauren: I mean, at this point, anything can
give you a summary of what was said, what we heard, etc. What matters is having
the knowledge, wherewithal and comfort-level to go way beyond that, to ask
creative and artful prompts to try to just get deeper and really play with some
of that data and massage it. Another that's really been interesting and
fruitful is to partner with AI tools as a reviewer. So I might write and create
and do my top line and my summary and all of that. And then ask for comments
and feedback… “What did I miss” kind of a prompt. Because we know as researchers,
sometimes there's the recency effect there just are innate biases that we bring
to the table.
Yogesh: When ChatGPT announced that you can
create a custom GPT tools, that's when I started playing a little bit more in
terms of creating a structure and system that helped me automate certain
things. Let's take, for example, taking a transcript. You can summarize the
transcript, that's great, but that's only one part of your job, right? The
bigger part of the job is, can you actually identify an insight from the
transcript? But then the question becomes, how are you defining an insight? So
when I designed one of my tools, I actually gave a very clear definition for
what I wanted to see as insights and what was not considered to be an insight.
So when you uploaded transcript, It will identify insights accordingly.
AI
vs Human role in insight-generation
Jiten: I think that's one of the
things, right... AI is basically designed to give answers, not necessarily the
right ones, right? And then this becomes a problem in the research reports
when, so you, I think if you're saying, you know, familiar with data, where you
have done the data yourself, I think that makes sense. But yeah, I mean,
generally, I think the onus of checking things still lies on the researcher…
because you’re putting your name on the report.
Lauren: I mean, there's no question… I think human oversight is essential. None of us here are cut-pasting from AI into a report; without truly digesting, processing, making it our own, turning it into your voice. I was cautious in the beginning, but have gotten over some of the fear that AI is encroaching upon or stealing, taking our jobs, et cetera. Very early, I bought into this idea that if we do not learn how to work with, then I think we will be left behind. I find that I'm much more creative when I'm talking with AI.
AI
and Powerpoint
Yogesh: I was just starting to say that there's a learning for all of us here as whether you're a qualitative researcher or an independent doing quantitative research or whatever, which is that traditionally we have relied on PowerPoint as our primary way of communicating back to the client. our output, right? But with these kinds of tools that are available today, you suddenly have a broader suite of tools you could use, whether you can use the NotebookLM to create like a podcast, you could use, tools to text, video tools to create videos Those were things that were hard for us to do two years ago, but now they're, now they're doable today. So that's a big shift in terms of what we can do or can't do.